What if the identity you’ve built your whole career around was based on an arbitrary decision you made as a child?
A moment from the podcast archive that I felt deserved to be heard again.
My guest Kate Kayaian, former professional concert cellist turned career coach and author of Beyond Potential, shares why so many high achievers feel trapped in an identity that no longer fits, and the first two steps to creating distance from it and redefining what else is possible.
Press play to hear why the career you’ve dedicated decades to may have started with an arbitrary choice, and how that realisation can be the most liberating thing you’ve ever heard.
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[Agi Keramidas]
Welcome to Personal Development Mastery Podcast and this is another snippet of wisdom, where I select my favorite, most insightful moments from previous episodes. Let's dive right in.
[Kate Kayaian]
Identity is such a perfect place to start with this conversation. In my experience, going through what I did to sort of leave classical music and figure these things out, there was a lot of resistance. People didn't want me to shift my identity, yet I felt this pull.
What I ended up figuring out, and I wrote a whole book about it, Beyond Potential, is a three-part process, where the first step is to reassess, the second step is to redefine, and the third step is to reignite. I think a lot of people skip this first step, which is where identity is based, and that is to reassess. Now, why was I a cellist?
This is my overall identity. Why was I a cellist? I was a cellist because when I was four and a half, I had a crush on a boy who was eight, who played the cello, and I knew that if we played different instruments, we would never be able to get married.
Right? This is my logic, and this is the reason I have this whole identity in my late 30s. We laugh, and it is kind of funny that a lot of these choices that we made are kind of arbitrary.
Maybe you became a dentist because you went to a career day at school, and your friend's dad was really cool, and he was a dentist.
[Agi Keramidas]
I actually became a dentist because my mom was a dentist, personally. That's my background. That was the reason, so it resonates.
[Kate Kayaian]
It resonates. What if your mom had been a teacher? Would you have been a teacher?
If we can reassess, where are we, and how did we get here? What are the stories we've been living according to? It kind of creates a little bit of distance.
It creates the circumstances around that identity, and then we can rewrite that. We can say, okay, well, if it's a little arbitrary that I became a cellist, then I can become something else. Other things are possible.
I think that's the first step, is to just create a little bit of distance, so it's not only ... It goes from, I am a cellist because that is just who I am. I was born to be a cellist.
It takes it from that to, no, I became a cellist because we happened to be family friends, and I had a crush on this boy, and he played the cello, and the decision was made. Then maybe I had some talent for it, and I had good training. Yes, yes, all of those things, but at the same time, it's arbitrary.
The first step is to create a little bit of distance between that identity. Then the second step, I think, is to redefine, to look at what else could be possible for you. I think it often seems impossible.
I'm like, well, no, I went to law school. I went through all of that work, all of that money, all of those studying hours, and now I'm a lawyer. I can't possibly do something else.
I work with somebody, Aggie, who's, as a client, I do a lot of one-on-one coaching to help people through these transition moments. He loves classical music, and he wants to be a classical musician. He just had it in his head that he couldn't.
It's looking at this, how do we redefine ourselves as a musician? What would that look like? What would that take?
As soon as he was able to redefine himself in that way, his next steps became very clear.
[Agi Keramidas]
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