This is the second of three episodes in which I am revisiting three interviews I did in the early days of the podcast. I believe these conversations to have deep and useful messages inside, and I want to give to the newer listeners of the podcast the opportunity to discover them and the value they contain.
This episode's conversation is with Sophia Vasiliou in July 2020, and was originally featured in episodes #045 & 046.
Sophia Vasiliou is passionate about helping people to shift blockages and transform limitations to discover who they truly are; to become healthier, happier and filled with purpose. She has studied and practiced many healing modalities, including Reiki and crystal therapy, and she has completed a 3-year shamanic apprenticeship in the Peruvian Amazon with an indigenous shaman, whilst working at the Ayahuasca Foundation. She is a pro-certified PSYCH-K practitioner and proficient in tools such as the Emotion code & Body Code, which can help make significant shifts in oneโs health, wellbeing & life. I hope you enjoy the conversation!
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* "See it to believe it" versus "Believe it to see it"
* Western medicine's approach: treating symptoms, not cause
* How our beliefs and perceptions create our reality
* Changing limiting beliefs - both on conscious and subconscious level
* The science of epigenetics, Dr Bruce Lipton, and the "biology of belief"
* How Psych-K process works to change limiting beliefs
* The shifting in human consciousness and the role of the virus
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Website: www.awakenedpotential.co.uk
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"Anything that undermines the foundational beliefs you have about reality, will create fear."
-Sophia Vasiliou
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I am Agi Keramidas, a knowledge broker and podcaster. I firmly believe in the power of self-education and personal development in radically improving one's life.
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Episode Transcript
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Welcome to the personal development mastery Podcast.
Agi 0:06
I am Agi Keramidas and my mission is to inspire you to grow, stand out and take action towards the next level of your life. I interview leaders, authors, successful entrepreneurs, spiritual teachers, exceptional people who will inspire you to improve your life. Tune in for two episodes each week and make sure you subscribe to get them as soon as they are released. This is the second of three episodes in which I am revisiting three interviews I did in the early days of the podcast. I believe this conversations to have deep and useful messages inside and I want to give to especially to the newer listeners of the podcast the opportunity to discover them and the value that they contain. This episode's conversation is with Sophia Vasiliou. It happened in July 2020, and it was originally featured in episodes 45 and 46. I hope you enjoy the conversation.
In today's show, I'm delighted to speak with Sophia Vasiliou. Sophia, your passion is helping people to shift blockages and transform limitations to discover who they truly are becoming healthier, happier and filled with purpose. You have studied and practised many healing modalities, including Reiki crystal therapy, and you have completed a three year shamanic apprenticeship in the Peruvian Amazon with an indigenous shaman. Whilst you were working there at Ayahuasca Foundation, you're a pro certified Psych-k practitioner, and proficient in tools such as the emotion code and Body Code with soul can help make significant shifts in one's health well being in life. Sophia, welcome to personal development mastery podcast, I'm really excited to be speaking with you today.
Sophia 2:13
Thank you so much. It's a real pleasure to be here. And I'm looking forward to our conversation. Yeah, and thank you for having me on the show.
Agi 2:20
Let's start with some elements of your story or how you turned out to do the changes and pursue the life that you that you are. So if you can share maybe a key defining moment in your journey.
Sophia 2:37
And key moment and K. I suppose I was very lost at one point. And from a young age, I was fairly depressed, for no real reason, you know, just sort of this latent misery that I couldn't seem to shake. And I'd always been into the stranger things in life studying things like astral projection as a young teen, and things like that. And something happened around my 21st birthday that really pushed me deeper into a depression. And it was that that really sent me off into a space of just really wanting to heal and change. I'd always had a some kind of gift where if I touch someone either with massage or just sending energy out, they would feel a lot better. And so that had always been part of my life. But I went to do some voluntary work in the Amazon and then in Mexico, working with species in the rainforest, and then counting coral and fish species on the Mexican Barrier Reef. And after that, I went to Guatemala. And this was the turning point, or I had a series of crystal therapy sessions with a South African lady. And they were a series of past life regressions and just energy clearing meeting my inner child. And the first session was four hours long, was super intense. lying there in the sort of slightly idyllic jungle type setting by a beautiful lake and surrounded by rocks and just seeing how we ended this tiny child version of myself was that I'd never really connected to before and after that session, I had what is known in the trade as a healing crisis. Essentially my body just purged everything for about 24 hours. I was sicker than I've ever been in my life. And then within 24 hours, literally just completely flipped. And I had the most incredible amount of energy I had, my eyes were crystal clear and absolutely white, my skin was healthy and radian and I just like a new human, it was the most bizarre experience I've ever had. And so that was in around September of when I was 26, about a decade ago. And I had a deep love of crystals anyway, by that point, and was working with them in my personal life. But when I went home, I studied crystal therapy for two years and started working as a therapist, and sort of been on that path ever since of just sort of working with people. And just having people go deeper. I'm fascinated with roots of finding the root cause of a problem. And then the way my understanding of the world works is there sort of different densities of energies. So we have the physical level, which is the most dense, you know, it's the one that's manifested reality on this plane of existence, then you have the emotional energy, which, if you're human, you'll know that your emotions affect your physical body, quite often. And then you have your thoughts, that realm, which, you know, they affect the emotions, which then affect the physical. And then above that you have spirit, which is the purest form of the lightest form of energy that comes into us. And so if we can go back and intercept an issue, before it becomes physical or a layer, that's a higher frequency than the physical, then we can deal with it much quicker. And in the shamanic ground, with the indigenous shipibo tribe I was with, no, they describe it, as you know, often Western allopathic medicine, you know, tries to cut offer tree at base level at the trunk, and expect it not to grow back. And yet, you know, they look for the roots and pull it out from the roots and do the extraction there. And it's sort of a much longer term benefit by doing that, because you're actually taking out the problem rather than the symptom. And so that's where the paradigms kind of meet in which I work.
Agi 7:38
Sophia, you mentioned the term spiritual already a few times, which I will show you would show I want you to tell me, what does this term mean to you? What does spirituality mean? How would you define it or explain it?
Sophia 7:54
So for me, spirituality is really about one's connection with their true essence or with source. And what I mean by that is, again, sort of, I feel that we're all spiritual energy, that's having a virtual reality experience inside of physical form. So the essence of who we are, is a spirit. And yet, it's it's one of those terms, it's really difficult to define, because it's sort of almost self referential, it's, for me, it's sort of the ultimate term is spirit. But I suppose it's a frequency of energy that, you know, it's a link to everything in the universe. So my worldview is that, you know, the universe itself is consciousness, there's a field of energy that has intelligence in and of itself. And the essence of us is part of that intelligence. And it's on that level that we are all one and all connected. And a small part of that or a small awareness in that gets funnelled into a physical body or a plant or, or an animal. And it's that that's having a unique experience, that is a fear or that is ag. And so, as we understand that, and sort of remove the veils of illusion that we're not that we can open up to the wonderful knowledge that we we have this immense power because we are everything. Ultimately, you know, not to use a dividing term, but we are God in some sense. And that's sort of the place I want to get everyone to realise, essentially. So when I talk about helping people understand their true nature, it's really understanding their godself because we are all that everything is that you know whether it's a table or a mouse.
Agi 10:10
I think your definition is absolutely awesome. You did a very good job to describe something that is probably in describe what can I say? Because I brought to mind that I found a quote, which is one of I really liked by Carlos Castaneda, and he talks about that three, he said, I'm just going to read it out the cities in the universe, there is an immeasurable, indescribable force, which someone's called intent. And absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link. So it's, yes, it's something that really needs when I first read it, I needed to contemplate on it. But it makes sense. But it's something that many people might need to really pay some attention to. And so let's talk a little bit about that, shall we? I mean, as you know, many people are hesitant towards anything that is not physical towards anything that they can't really, you know, put their hands on the old day, you use the word, Stranger Things, that's how you call the Daily Show, why do you think that isn't? How could someone that gets intrigued by the Spirit should take some steps towards realising it?
Sophia 11:41
I suppose a big part of it. And also a big part of what I call spirituality in terms of the journey towards realising that you are spirit is about shedding beliefs, and certain ways that you're breaking out of the illusion that we're not. And the problem is, is there's a collective paradigm. So there are some cultures that are very open and aware of this connection. And so discussing these kinds of things, and experiencing them and discussing them with people who may have experienced isn't difficult, it doesn't cause shame, or embarrassment, or fear. But there's a lot of people and a lot of cultures that completely shut that kind of idea down. And as we sort of, are in, especially in a Western culture, as it were, you know, this ultra scientific paradigm, which basically says, if we don't know how to measure it, yet, it doesn't exist. But you could have said that about germs a few centuries ago, because microscopes didn't exist. And yet, now we have better instruments to measure it, we now say it's insane, that they don't exist. So sort of taking it from that perspective, you know, in my world, you know, we just haven't learned how to measure it yet. But the human organism is, you know, the best scientific instrument there is. And we can tune the frequencies that we want to understand. And we can tune our awareness to discovering these different places. And I think because of a lot of the cultural beliefs and setups, there's so much fear around doing that, so if you say, oh, did you know the table is not really solid? You know, a lot of quantum physicists are saying, you know, if the from, from a physical perspective, anything solid is a complete illusion, but some people really struggle even with that. But, you know, when you take the entire human race, and condense all of the atoms, or all of the particles within their atoms until they become actually next to each other, we wouldn't fit into a sugar cube. That's how much we have density. And the rest of it is empty space, then it's really hard to break out of this illusion because our eyes visual sense seems to be one of the most pronounced and, you know, I can knock on the table and get a response. So how is it not solid? And, and so I think it brings up you know, anything that undermines the foundational beliefs you have about reality will create fear. You know, a good example from people's emotional lives is when they realise their parents aren't perfect. And it can really shake people it can you know, because there's just this idealised beacon of of perfection like even though they can become completely messed up. Just that sense that they will always have that. And then you realise they're human, when you get to a certain age and the the cognitive dissonance that calls, causes, and even though nothing has actually changed, you know, parents were always humans, and messing up and making mistakes and doing amazing things in equal measure. But your perception has changed. And that shift in perception causes fear and unrest. And it's like that with every step of the spiritual journey as as the veils of illusion are opened, and you're like, Oh, my gosh, that's even more far out. And you can often start to question your sanity, because it just seems so nice. And this is where for me, I love the fact that science and spirituality are now being bridged through quantum physics. You know, there are cultures and texts around and that have been around for 1000s of years that are languaging the same concepts that are being revealed now through scientific data. And, and that's where it becomes a bit more stabilising. And that's where I think more people are able to make this leap into the spiritual realms than ever before, at least on a more mass level, rather than the elite and the monks and those kind of people. Because the, the basic paradigm of science is also shifting, and so we can accept these concepts much more readily.
Agi 16:40
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Sophia 18:55
So I was attending a lecture by Dr. Bruce Lipton, last year or so. And he was showing a paper from modern psychology journal, which said, you know, we used to think that Seeing is believing. But now research is really showing that believing is seeing and the perception of reality is more important in our experience than what's actually there. And, you know, for me, that was just mind blowing. And, you know, with the psych k work that I do, which is about reprogramming the subconscious beliefs, you know, I understood that but just hearing it in that way was just, you know, a real wow moment, you know, like that powerful. And guess one way of explaining it would be you to people having you know, a similar experience. You One's afraid of dogs and one loves dogs. And a barking dog runs up towards them. Now one goes into a terror response, and one goes into a growth and happiness response. Now, there's nothing different there except their perception of what that dog is. And yet, they're having a completely different physiological experience, you know, they've gone into fight or flight or into growth and repair, one's heart is completely open, one is shutting down their immune system and getting blood to their limbs to run. And so actually triggering, you know, small DNA changes. Because environment not safe need to do X, Y, and Zed to make me stronger. And so you know, the cognitive functions shift, and so the decision making will be instinctual rather than creative. And there's no difference between what's happening and the external perspective. So even though the outside reality can be exactly the same, your perceptions completely changed the event. And, again, this is where we realise every, you know, many people say, you know, oh, you're not the centre of the universe, you really are the centre of your universe. Because your perceptions filter your reality completely. And so, you know, the way I see the world is completely different to anyone else. And no one else would exactly be able to understand the way I perceive this external reality. You know, it's like, one person has red glasses on and someone else has blue, someone else has violet, you know, they'll all see roughly the same thing, but from a completely different colour range. And then when you change a belief, it's like, you change from blue to red, like, Whoa, I never knew the world could look like that or be like that, because it's always been written, always been blue.
Agi 21:58
And that's the thing with the beliefs that we hold is that we don't, as you said, the lens. So if you were to read lens, you're used to it you don't, you're not aware that there is a lens, you just see what's on the other side, you look through the lens. And I think that silence is first to realise that there are some beliefs that really change how we perceive our reality. That example, you said with the two guys that and their attitude towards dogs, that's a perfect example. Because on the outside from an objective point of view, the event is, is that its objective is a dog running towards two guys. The subject subjective experience, our reality of life really is based on what's going on. Inside the Mind, you mentioned and I actually wanted to talk about Dr. Bruce Lipton, who you you met in person you had training with him, I discovered I had known the name, maybe I had seen, you know, some short videos, but it was earlier this year, when I got recommended to read the book, the Biology of Belief, I devoured it. I don't know, five days, and you know, when people who've read it know that it's not like an easy read that you can just go through it. But I couldn't, I couldn't put it down, I found it fascinating. And then there was a what you, we have already talked about the realisation that the beliefs that I have, really hold me back, and I don't really am aware of them. They're there in the background at the subconscious level. And that led me to do more research on the psyche method, especially that he described and then somehow led me to find you on the website of Bruce Lipton and have this aka myself, so we'll talk about it in a little while. But can you tell me a little bit more about Dr. Bruce Lipton and the the the philosophy of epigenetics, you know, for people that may not be aware, and I think that links nicely to what you were saying about the merging of science and spirituality?
Sophia 24:38
Yeah, absolutely. So, Dr. Bruce Lipton was one of the first people back in the 70s or maybe late 60s he was studying stem cells. So what he did in his experiments was he put identical stem cells in three different culture mediums so the culture Medium would represent the bloodstream. And so you change some pH or other food elements in this in this medium, and suddenly the cell becomes bone, the other one becomes skin, the other one becomes muscle. But you've got genetically identical cells. And the only thing that's changed is the external environment in which they are sitting. Now, at the time, everyone was looking at the genes control life, genes create the programme, and you were a victim to your genome, because your genes tell everything about you. But he was seeing in the lab, well hang on a minute, if I just change what the genes are sitting in, essentially, it becomes a completely different cell to its brother, but they're genetically identical. And for many, many years, that was kind of pushed down because the Human Genome Project was, you know, going to be the answer to all medicine. And eventually, he left standard academia for a while because he couldn't lecture anymore. teaching something that he was seeing as observationally absolutely wrong. And fast forward, you know, 2530 years, epigenetics is now the hot thing in biology. And what epigenetics is all about is realising the environmental factors and affecting the way the genome is expressed. So the genes would be seen as the architectural blueprints. So you know, they code for certain things. But in order to get the blueprints off the shelf, and get the architects to actually make or the builders to make the building, you need someone to come in and pick the different elements off the shelf and actually put it down. So okay, we're going to make it this way. And the environment informs the cell, how it's best to make itself based on what's going on outside. And so on a cellular level, you have the cell membrane, which would represent the skin and the receptive organs, giving the data to the internal part of the cell to say, Okay, we've got famine here. So we need to make sure we produce loads of fat, so we can store energy when we need it, we've got a lot of danger. So let's make sure our arms and legs are really strong, you know, so it would choose different elements based on the environmental factors. And some of that is, you know, and it's called epigenetics, because it's the level of control above the genes. And then Dr. Bruce gets quite far out as well. You know, here's sort of, for him, his story with se K is, you know, he was talking about how changing our perception and our beliefs will change the chemistry inside our body, which will inform the cells to do different things and invoke health instead of deterioration, and create feelings and emotions of love instead of fear. He had no clue how to do it. And so when his lecture audiences would ask, Well, yeah, but how do we do this? Bruce? Like?
One happy conference, the man who originated psych K, Rob Williams said, Hey, Bruce, you might want to stick around for my lecture, because I've got the answer to that question. And so Dr. Bruce watched Rob Williams do a presentation on psych K. And, yeah, they, they've started a long friendship since then. And so what the psych k does is, changes a beliefs from the inside out. So in our first seven years of life, especially, we are basically programmable sponges. We are designed to take in our environment, on levels that we're completely not aware of our brainwave states are not fully developed until we're actually into early teens, but they don't hit alpha state, which would be cognitive reasoning functions, until just around age seven. Everything before that were essentially in delta, or lower brainwave state, which we associate with sleep and hypnosis. So things are just being written into the subconscious as programme. So every time a parent tells you, you're amazing when you do X, or I love you, because you've done this other thing, you're creating specific beliefs around, I'm not worthy unless I produce or if they shout at you in anger, and then, like five minutes later, give you all the love in the world when they're really sorry, and they've calmed down. You might have conflicting beliefs. So I'm wonderful and I I don't deserve anything. And because you don't have a filter, at this age, you're just everything you hear and see you taken as true. And so this is where as we go through life, these subconscious programmes because they are at the level of, you know, built be below the level of our conscious mind, or our normal cognitive reasoning, catch us out. So, we end up in pattern loops, you know, why does this always happen to me, as soon as you hear yourself saying that you say, okay, there must be a subconscious programme in the somewhere that's creating this experience, because the role of the subconscious mind is to prove itself, right. And so if the subconscious has programmes, like I can do anything, and I'll never succeed at anything, you will take yourself down a certain road and get really close. And then you'll sabotage yourself, because it's showing you that you can and that you'll never succeed. And it's really, really difficult to break them because there's the iceberg model of the subconscious or of the mind. So the conscious part is sort of this five to 10% floating on the top and everything else is below the radar. So the most common example would be, you know, when you're driving, having a chat with someone, and you're like, oh, how did I get here? Initially, driving felt like the hardest thing in the world. But once it's become a subconscious process, your body will drive the car and your mind will pay attention to certain details on the road and be able to have a conversation and your body just does it. And that's great, because it takes in about a million times more data than your conscious mind can. So your conscious mind might be dealing with 40 bytes of data, whereas your subconscious is dealing with 14 million. And so it's much better at processing fast, which is why the instinctual mind just you know, consciousness goes out the window, and you just are acting. But when it's a negative programme or a limiting programme, it's pulling really hard in the direction we don't want to go. And that's when we feel like we're banging our head against a brick wall trying to make progress and being completely unable to do so.
Agi 32:28
You know, one of the things perhaps possibly the the biggest takeaway I got from reading the biology of belief was that when I realised that I have these subconscious patterns, or programmes that are running my in the subconscious, and control my decisions really, at the end, and therefore they control the action I take and the life I live, it was the big realisations came when I read. And I really knew exactly the point that he was making that by trying to change the subconscious beliefs that are in the background on a conscious level with for example, techniques like affirmations, which I have been doing, I think, adults, when you get this session, I've been doing them religiously for, I don't know very few years, and somehow they won't, they won't go in and penetrate and change. So that's when I got very much interested in the site gate process. Show to see really for myself how you can change something in the subconscious, directly and quickly. So can you guide us through how psyche works that non change in a limiting belief.
Sophia 33:55
Cycle A is a tool through which we can easily essentially biohack the brain and the systems. So we instead of trying to consciously change the subconscious, where there's elements to it. So essentially, we're installing consciously choosing the belief that we want, and then installing it directly into the subconscious mind without having to use hypnosis. And that's a part of it, which I really love because one of the main fundamentals of psych K is that the power is in the partner. Now all of the wisdom for you for Aggie lies within you. And so you have the space to really say okay, this is my life now, how do I want to instead, what beliefs might I need about myself and about the world to achieve this goal. And then once you've kind of got an idea of that, then we go ahead and start the installation processes but the first part of that is asking upstairs asking your superconscious mind, you know, the part of you that is aware that it's part of this source and spirit energy. Some might call it the highest self, and just say, is it okay for me to change this right now. And we do that because, you know, some things we need in our life to learn specific lessons from, or you know, we're not quite done with it yet, or we're not quite ready to make that change yet. And so, with psych, hey, we're really bringing the mind body and spirit into alignment. So we're consciously choosing what we want our subconscious to do. And we're asking for guidance from our higher self. And once those three things are in alignment, we've got three horses taking us in the same direction rather than taking us into split universe. And that's really the power of it. And the installation process is super, super quick. And what it does is essentially helps the two hemispheres of the brain wire together and integrate. And this is another thing right now they're sort of at the cutting edge of neurosciences. You know, when they put people in MRI scans and get them to remember a trauma or a phobia, they see that often the data that jams one hemisphere of the brain, essentially, and the psyche process uses different body positions and other techniques to integrate the two hemispheres was a lot of crossing the midline. And it allows the data to suddenly discharge and pass between the right and left hemispheres. And so you're no longer thinking with half a brain, you're actually whole brained, and that at the end of every balance process, which is what the site key processes are called balances, you end up in a whole brain state. And we use a basic kinesiology of just muscle testing, in order to confirm the process at every step of the way. So the principle of Kinesiology is essentially the same as what you would use a lie detector for, there are certain physiological changes that the body does outside of your control that indicate whether you're uttering a truth or falsehood. And so the muscle testing, you know, your muscles will get stronger, there'll be more electrical current passing through your system in the presence of a truth. And they'll get weak in the presence of a false hood. And so we can use that in order to see what's happening on the subconscious level, because that we intend, yeah, okay. We're talking to the subconscious. Okay. How say, you know, I love myself? No, I do. I thought I did. Yeah. But on a deeper level, you don't. I guess this is also really where the distinction between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind is really important, because you're not necessarily aware of those programmes. Because consciously you think, you know, I've got a really healthy relationship myself, I look after myself. And then in the quiet space, as you catch yourself talk, oh, you stupid idiot. Why are you doing that? Again, you always do that you always mess up, you know, is that really loving? And so the trick with figuring out your subconscious beliefs is catching yourself in the act. And Bruce puts it lovely, you know, look at the printout of your life, to see what beliefs you really have.
Agi 38:33
I want your comment on something else that you mentioned. Briefly. I think it is something that is happening more with the the times that we're living in. It was you mentioned something about the level of humanity or the consciousness of humanity, which many people say that there is a big rage on it. And something is about to shift to change. Just a moment, what's your thoughts on that?
Sophia 39:11
So I don't think it's about to change, I think it's changing, I think we're finally in that window of the shift. In my universe, what's happening is we're going from one frequency band to another. So if you imagine we can see the rainbow at the moment from red to violet. And that's one spectrum of perception. And what we're doing is we're actually changing the dial. So we'll be on a different octave. Yeah. So as we make that jump from violet into sort of whatever comes after violet, because we can't see that we're in that bridge moment at the moment and that's why it's so uncomfortable and the best way visual image I can get Have you ever looked at cymatics so where you have sound producing shapes, so Oh, yes, online where you see the rice or sand on a on a board and a speaker underneath of this specific frequency, it makes beautiful geometry. And then they twist it to get to the next true pitch. And as the as it goes between one pitch and another, the whole mandorla just crumbles and disintegrates. And then it finds the true pitch. And it makes perfect, beautiful pattern again,
Agi 40:34
where it was bumped just by your description, I can see that in my mind.
Sophia 40:41
And that's exactly where I think we are right now we're between one pitch and another. And and so what we're perceiving right now around us, absolute chaos is the old systems crumble as the old ways of thinking, the old belief patterns are just completely dissolving. And we think we're in absolute chaos. But what we're happening is we're refining our vibration, and at some point will emerge into a pattern that's more beautiful and more coherent than we ever thought could be possible. But we've just kind of got to ride out this blip in the middle. And this is where I say, you know, living in the heart and actually being able to emotionally stay in your centre and stay calm in amongst the eye of the storm and really think about what values are important to you. What do you want to take through to this new earth or this different world that we're creating? And the more you consciously think about those things, the more that's the energy that will be placed into this Mandela because we're all in it together, we're all creating this new frequency. So is it going to be one based on fear or love? Is it going to be one based on collaboration or competition? And is it going to be harmony or, or dissonance? And we have that choice right now we are absolute creators of our reality, as we've discussed are our beliefs and our thoughts. And so let's, let's take time to think and feel a better world into existence.
Agi 42:23
Do you think I completely agree with you? Do you think that in some ways, the virus and the situation with that has played a role in maybe accelerated things?
Sophia 42:37
Yeah, I mean, the whole virus thing is such an interesting and multifaceted mess. Because there's different strands of consciousness and different strands of awareness playing into the story of what's happening. So earlier, I was speaking about, you know, you have the physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual densities, and each of those places holds a different awareness. So when we see the world through the lens of just the physical, you know, there's this deadly virus, supposedly, that doesn't actually kill that many people, but it's a whole other conversation, a deadly ish virus that swept the world but has created you know, a fear response that has locked down the economy, the humans, and you know, so many different things. But then early on, many people were making videos about what the spiritual effects of lockdown, you know, when, you know, on mass going into retreat, we can't go out, we can't see the people we like, we can't connect outwardly. And we have to go inside and start to assess what, what's meaningful for us. If I'm not at work now, and I've actually got time and space to think, how do I want my life to look when I come out of this? So yeah, it ties exactly into what I was saying, because people had time and space to see what meant something to them outside of the rat race. And that was a profound shift in consciousness. And a lot of people I know, like, I don't want to go back to my job the way it was. I was complete hamster in a wheel. You know. So it's as much as it's push, you know, there's a schism at the moment with the virus narrative and it's pushing some people deeper into the fear and the fight offline as pushing some people deeper into the awakening to new possibilities and co creating and and this division is fascinating. Because we're seeing more and more polarisation. People are becoming more and more opinionated and angry and volatile. You know, someone says something they don't agree with and there's just like a movie. In comments of just vitriol, and yeah, massive support and, and just to split into different worldviews, and some people and less in the spiritual community saying this is actually going to be an energetic split. And at some point that's going to create two separate entities of Earth, and we will be overlaid, and yet not aware of each other's existence anymore. And that's kind of like the really far out view of what's happening. Imagine, have you seen the film The others, with Nicole Kidman, it's sort of she moves into a house and they hear echoes of people in the house, and then eventually find out that there's, you know, an 18th century family also living in the house. And you know, there's two or three swamps. And there's these two things happening in the same physical space, but they're not completely aware of each other. Yeah. And, and with this polarisation, this splitting, it feels like at some point, that's sort of how it's going to play out. I don't know how on earth that would happen. But, you know, things are shifting so rapidly and so fast. That, you know, fair game if your minds open, anything's possible. And, you know, infinite possibility is, you know, quantum physics says that, you know, there's infinite versions of us, existing already in parallel universes and lives. So why not have the entire timeline split? between two versions of reality, whether we're vibrating in the harmony or the chaos?
Agi 46:40
Tell me, what does personal development mean, for you,
Sophia 46:45
personal development meant really is questioning every one of your beliefs about everything that you didn't expect, and coming to your own conclusions? changing from, you know, thinking that tattoos are horrible, because your parents did and and realising that that's why your opinion of tattoos is like that, you know, it's really questioning everything you think is one of your own beliefs and seeing what you actually believe. And that that's when development happens in it. There's just sort of continual growth and shedding
Agi 47:24
the loss. How can people find out more about you how they, where would you direct them?
Sophia 47:30
So I have my website and awakened potential.co.uk. And that's the best place to find me and the different services I offer.
Agi 47:42
That's fantastic. And Sophie, I want to thank you very much for our conversation. It was intriguing, fascinating, and it's really things that I could be talking about and hearing about all day. So I want to thank you very much for sharing your point of view your wisdom, with me and the audience. I also want to thank you, for the sake a process that I did with you a few weeks back, which was good, great experience. And I'm really looking forward to seeing the the transformation as the reactions happen, I can already see parts of it. Any last parting words?
Sophia 48:34
Just thank you so much. It's been really wonderful to be talking with you about so many different things and you know, just your acceptance of some concepts or just your ability to talk about things, you know, are quite extremely pushing the limits of certain people's worldviews. And it's been really lovely to be able to have that space to just talk freely. So thank you very much. It's been wonderful.
Agi 49:04
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